All time,All combat sports,All Great legends HW tournament inside a cage,MMA or freestyle rules!Who wins?
April 30, 2010, Posted by admin at 4:27 am
Boxing
Ali and Marciano (Many people consider them the 2 greatest)
Kick Boxing
Stan the man Longinidis and Schemmy Schilt (The 8 times world champion with the 4 or 5 K-1 champ)
Judo
David Douillet and Hitoshi Saito (Both the Olympic medalist records)
Wrestling
Alexander Karelin and Artur Taymazov (Greco Roman and freestyle all time Kings)
MMA
Fedor and Brock Lesnar (We all know about them a lot)
Break it down in a tournament who wins and how,let’s say all fight against all in a championship ala football (soccer) type of championship!
Who earns the most victories? My vote personally?ALEXANDER KARELIN!
Rickson by armbar.
Vasily Zaitsev
Fedor. He can out-strike the grapplers and out-grapple the strikers. In face, he’s already beaten Semmy Schilt. Brock is still too green to change up his game when he needs to, or to stay calm when his back’s against the wall. Everyone else is too one-dimensional. Fantastic at that one dimension, yes, but they can’t defend against what they don’t understand.
Knight, I think we started off on the wrong foot on your other question. So, to answer your question:
Boxing:
I would put Marciano and Mike Tyson instead of Ali. Tyson was fast and powerful. He could also take a punch. He is the best for what we want in this freestyle battle. Ali is not what we need for this type of battle. (He is still the greatest Heavyweight ever though).
Kickboxing/K1:
I would put Schemmy Schilt and Ernesto Hoost.
Judo:
Don’t know much about Judo fighters, so I’ll go with your choices.
Wrestling:
Same for wrestling.. your choices.
MMA:
I would also have Fedor and Lesnar, maybe Kimbo Slice also.
The Battle:
I don’t think the Judo guys would do too well. Judo is mostly grappling and submitting an opponent. If it is a freestyle battle, and you grapple, you would probably most likely not last too long. The striking arts have the greatest chance of victory. Tyson would probably KO a lot of the aforementioned fighters (if Tyson was in his prime). The night Tyson fought Spinks, he was basically unbeatable (in boxing terms). Fedor is underrated because he is not American. Nobody can deny how good he is though. Ernesto Hoost is a 3 time K1 Gran Prix champion. He would have a good chance in this in my opinion. His head kick is deadly. Brock Lesnar is a brawler with limited skills compared to the others on the list. I will take you word when it comes to the Judo and Wrestling fighters. The hardest hitter out of all of these fighters (by far) if Mike Tyson.
Tournament:
LEG 1:
Mike Tyson vs Rocky Marciano: Winner = Mike Tyson via KO in the 11th round.
Schemmy Schilt vs Ernesto Hoost: Winner = Ernesto Hoost via KO (head kick) in 3rd round
David Douillet and Hitoshi Saito: Winner = Hitoshi Saito via submission (choke)
Alexander Karelin and Artur Taymazov: Winner = Alexander Karelin via submission (arm bar)
Fedor Emelianenko vs Brock Lesnar: Winner = Fedor Emelianenko via strikes
LEG 2:
Mike Tyson vs Fedor Emelianenko; Winner = Mike Tyson via KO in the 3rd round.
Hitoshi Saito vs Alexander Karelin: Winner = Alexander Karelin via submission
Ernesto Hoost vs Alexander Karelin: Winner = Ernesto Hoost via KO in the 2nd (head kick)
FINAL:
MIKE TYSON VS ERNESTO HOOST:
WINNER OF TOURNAMENT:
MIKE TYSON via KO in the 9th round:
A great question, and one that is very difficult to fully answer. For me, picking an overall winner is the easy part: that would be Fedor. However, picking a winner between many of the other fighters is not so easy.I agree with your selection. Everyone of your choices are possibly the top two world class HW fighters at their discipline, but, apart from Fedor and Lesnar, if the others were to fight in MMA with just the skills they have acquired in their respective disciplines, then it would be glaringly obvious that they each had weak holes in their game. Schilt has fought MMA but I do not really regard him as a Mixed Martial Artist. He’s an elite kickboxer that’s for sure, but not really an MMA fighter as such. Therefore, in regards to all 10 competitors, in an MMA fight, Fedor would be able to quickly capitalise on each one of his opponent’s weak points, thus remaining undefeated.
So, having spoke of the winner with relative ease, I will now try and determine the outcome of the other fighters.
First up: The Boxers
Ali vs Marciano – I think Ali’s speed and footwork would be too much for Marciano. I doubt Ali could end the fight, but I believe he would win a UD.
Boxers vs Judokas
Yet again, like the previous fight, I think Ali’s speed and footwork would be too much for both opponents to handle, literally. Douillet and Saito would be unable to grip a hold of Ali without being badly hurt. They would be overwhelmed by Ali’s punches. Ali scores two victories against Douillet and Saito. Both by KO.
Marciano vs Douillet and Saito is a lot trickier to predict. Marciano’s toe to toe style could very well play directly into his opponent’s hands. Nevertheless, it is quite possible Marciano could come out and blitz both of them within seconds, but I believe, in an MMA fight, more times than not, Marciano would lose both fights by UD or by recieving a dislocated shoulder. I very much doubt he would be hurt with strikes, however, he may have an arm nearly ripped off if he’s not careful.
Boxers vs Kickboxers
Ali and Marciano would lose against Longinidis and Schilt. Boxers are not trained in leg kicks, knee strikes, elbows etc. They would be out of their depth, defensively.
Boxers vs wrestlers
These fights would be similar to kickboxers vs wrestlers. They are classic striker vs grappler match ups that could really go either way (Schilt may have experience in some MMA fights, but his ground game is virtually non existent) I believe, in this instance, more times than not, Karelin, Taymazov and Lesnar would be victorious over both boxers and kickboxers.
The wrestlers would most likely dominate the judokas via Ground N’ Pound.
I would pick Douillet to defeat Saito.
Both kickboxers would defeat the Judokas via TKO or KO.
Schilt’s slight MMA experience should enable him to get the better of Longinidis.
Karelin and Taymazov would earn decision victories over Lesnar.
Karelin would defeat Taymazov via decision.
The Champions League Table:
1 Fedor – W-9 L-0
2 Karelin W-8 L-1
3 Taymazov W-7 L-2
4 Lesnar W-6 L-3
5 Schilt W-5 L-4
6 Longinidis W-4 L-5
7 Ali W-3 L-6
8 Douillet W-2 L-7
9 Saito W-1 L-8
10 Marciano W-0 L-9